Chapter 8

In this chapter, O'Brien, Winston, Julia and Martin meet in the place where there is no darkness. O'Brien asks Winston many questions to see what Winston is really willing to do and how much he hates the Party to be able to join the Brotherhood. He was very brutal when asking those questions to Winston and apparently this was already a routine to O'brien probably because these are questions he's already asked himself many times. I think the Brotherhood and the Party is almost the same thing because if O'Brien asked if he's willing to throw sulphuric acid in a child's face, commit suicide if told to do so and such things well the Party is doing similiar things, killing innocent people if needed.
O'Brien said that Brotherhood can't be wiped out because it's not an organization in the ordinary sence, it's just an idea which can never be destroyed, it's an opinion of the people, something that can never be changed. Winston and even Julia feel a great admiration for O'Brien, from his ideas to his gestures like something as simple as the way he manipulated a cigarette. I feel a slight feeling of admiration for him but I view O'Brien more like a determine type of person who takes facts just as they are, he knows if he goes against the Party the way that he is, eventually he'll get caught and either have to commit suicide or get caught, tortured and killed right before confessing.
Goldstein's book is undestructible because as much as the Thought Police hunts it down and destroys them, the people that are part of the Brotherhood already have it memorized so once again this is also why Brotherhood is undestructible as well, because everyone part of this organization already knows what this book is all about and what the rules are and results might be. You become part of Brotherhood once you read that book, so Winston isn't even part of this group yet and he's telling O'Brien so many things that can get him killed if only O'Brien decided to confess, but Winston has already done so much that telling O'Brien all these things won't make much a difference when he gets caught, he's already sneaked around with Julia, had sex with her and now joining the Brotherhood, telling him what he's willing to do, he's secret place to meet with Julia is already guaranteed he'll get killed once caught.
When O'Brien finished the stanza of the poem, Winston felt much more comfortable with him than what he already was because that already made him know for a fact that O'Brien was just like him, that they both shared the same thoughts and opinions and how important it is to them the past.